This article & podcast are a gateway into why the world is where it is, it answers your fundamental Question of the ‘root cause’ its based on many perspectives that illuminate the urgency of people gaining a unitive stage. I really hope you do explore this as I detect a very astute mind that will appreciate this deep dive, kindest regards, Neil
Yeah, interesting stuff. As I commented directly on the article, i was very fortunate to be introduced to Jiddhu Krishnamurti as a young man, and from there discovered his chats with David Bohm. So it’s good to see some research being done along those lines, and i’ll likely dig out that paper and have a read. I posted a link to the first dialogue between Bohm and Krishnamurti on the other comment, which begins a sequence of chats between them, which would go quite far to changing the world if they were more widely known. Typically, given his name and background, Krishnamurti gets lumped into our interpretation of spirituality as mung beans, crystals and kumbaya, but it is anything but. For me, probably one of the pre-eminent thinkers of the last thousand years. It’s interesting the podcast mentions Bohm, but not Krishnamurti.
I’m always down for a check out Neil, nice one. Got a few things queued up for this weekend, but I’ll get to it soon. I’ll let you know my thoughts afterwards. Much appreciated!
I agree on Finkelstein. His advocacy for Palestine has cost him a lot. He also seems to have some blind spots. Thanks for shining some light on them. This system is no longer redeemable - if it ever was.
We’ve all got blind spots, which I know you’ll agree with. That one really troubles me about the general dissident vibe - or maybe it’s just what i get algorithmically presented with. Hard to decipher these days. But i’ve been unable to shake that feeling that there’s a lot of chasing after the destruction left in the wake of the wrecking balls, and a lot of aiming at the political middle managers like trump and co.
I can’t even name 2 people who sit on the boards of Blackrock, Vanguard etc, whose wealth enables those companies to flood the thought world via multiple think tanks and leadership programs, quietly ensuring the continuance of policy that benefits their bottom line. The outputs of which are visible all around. War, oppression etc are profitable…
Well, there are apparently a lot of orgs and activists working to target the financiers. But I think the key advantage of the powerful right now is using the economy as a weapon against us. Things have gotten so expensive and jobs are so scarce - and targeting so real - that everything is secretive and self-contained. Orgs are getting money still but it's less and concentrated in certain areas. Instead of being open, as a movement by definition is, they are closed and so we are left to hear about their work if the press picks it up. The reports don't seem to go very far in other words.
Absolutely. The financiers are one line of attack, so is ‘culture’, right? And this is one area that I think just gets so overlooked. The systemic lords and their ability to shape the thought seas that we swim in. So, bring down the financial block, there are a line of acolytes waiting in their teens unwittingly ready to recreate something equally destructive or perhaps worse. We really have created a monumental puzzle to extract ourselves from eh. And shit is going to get heavy, I suspect. I hope I’m so wrong, but I can easily see myself on my deathbed looking back at the world’s first real time, streamed genocide as the starter in a horror show 5 course meal…..
What I've been finding truly remarkable is that the non profit industry is actually extremely well funded to work on oppositional narratives and culture. But much of it doesn't get out there. Not saying it doesn't make a difference... But when Occupy was happening everyone could join in and contribute. Now "movement" work is secretive. It is allowing the Democrats to dominate with this No Kings concept, while the more innovative and needed ideas are pushed out. I really feel like the fact that people like us, who are deeply interested and concerned, have no access point to even know the conversations happening, much less contribute ideas to them, is going to be a big backfire. It's part of the containment the Democrats want since their only strategy is "we're not Trump."
I can well imagine. It’s the same vibe in the international aid world too. As the wonderful Michael Parenti put it, international aid is when the poor people of rich countries give the rich people of poor countries money.
In truth, i hold little hope for solutions of any form coming out of that NGO type thing - where is the money coming from? Those with a vested interest in maintaining the status quo, of which Trump types are now going to be a permanent fixture.
https://open.substack.com/pub/eaarthnet/p/are-you-a-proto-adult-unmasking-the?r=2u7mqd&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
This article & podcast are a gateway into why the world is where it is, it answers your fundamental Question of the ‘root cause’ its based on many perspectives that illuminate the urgency of people gaining a unitive stage. I really hope you do explore this as I detect a very astute mind that will appreciate this deep dive, kindest regards, Neil
Yeah, interesting stuff. As I commented directly on the article, i was very fortunate to be introduced to Jiddhu Krishnamurti as a young man, and from there discovered his chats with David Bohm. So it’s good to see some research being done along those lines, and i’ll likely dig out that paper and have a read. I posted a link to the first dialogue between Bohm and Krishnamurti on the other comment, which begins a sequence of chats between them, which would go quite far to changing the world if they were more widely known. Typically, given his name and background, Krishnamurti gets lumped into our interpretation of spirituality as mung beans, crystals and kumbaya, but it is anything but. For me, probably one of the pre-eminent thinkers of the last thousand years. It’s interesting the podcast mentions Bohm, but not Krishnamurti.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SqYCFRzqNoA
As promised! Neil
https://open.substack.com/pub/eaarthnet/p/beyond-fragmentation-the-tremendous?r=2u7mqd&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
The podcast draws from the text! Do the problem rests with the framing, watch this space!
Have a good weekend, neil
I’m always down for a check out Neil, nice one. Got a few things queued up for this weekend, but I’ll get to it soon. I’ll let you know my thoughts afterwards. Much appreciated!
I agree on Finkelstein. His advocacy for Palestine has cost him a lot. He also seems to have some blind spots. Thanks for shining some light on them. This system is no longer redeemable - if it ever was.
We’ve all got blind spots, which I know you’ll agree with. That one really troubles me about the general dissident vibe - or maybe it’s just what i get algorithmically presented with. Hard to decipher these days. But i’ve been unable to shake that feeling that there’s a lot of chasing after the destruction left in the wake of the wrecking balls, and a lot of aiming at the political middle managers like trump and co.
I can’t even name 2 people who sit on the boards of Blackrock, Vanguard etc, whose wealth enables those companies to flood the thought world via multiple think tanks and leadership programs, quietly ensuring the continuance of policy that benefits their bottom line. The outputs of which are visible all around. War, oppression etc are profitable…
Well, there are apparently a lot of orgs and activists working to target the financiers. But I think the key advantage of the powerful right now is using the economy as a weapon against us. Things have gotten so expensive and jobs are so scarce - and targeting so real - that everything is secretive and self-contained. Orgs are getting money still but it's less and concentrated in certain areas. Instead of being open, as a movement by definition is, they are closed and so we are left to hear about their work if the press picks it up. The reports don't seem to go very far in other words.
Absolutely. The financiers are one line of attack, so is ‘culture’, right? And this is one area that I think just gets so overlooked. The systemic lords and their ability to shape the thought seas that we swim in. So, bring down the financial block, there are a line of acolytes waiting in their teens unwittingly ready to recreate something equally destructive or perhaps worse. We really have created a monumental puzzle to extract ourselves from eh. And shit is going to get heavy, I suspect. I hope I’m so wrong, but I can easily see myself on my deathbed looking back at the world’s first real time, streamed genocide as the starter in a horror show 5 course meal…..
What I've been finding truly remarkable is that the non profit industry is actually extremely well funded to work on oppositional narratives and culture. But much of it doesn't get out there. Not saying it doesn't make a difference... But when Occupy was happening everyone could join in and contribute. Now "movement" work is secretive. It is allowing the Democrats to dominate with this No Kings concept, while the more innovative and needed ideas are pushed out. I really feel like the fact that people like us, who are deeply interested and concerned, have no access point to even know the conversations happening, much less contribute ideas to them, is going to be a big backfire. It's part of the containment the Democrats want since their only strategy is "we're not Trump."
I can well imagine. It’s the same vibe in the international aid world too. As the wonderful Michael Parenti put it, international aid is when the poor people of rich countries give the rich people of poor countries money.
In truth, i hold little hope for solutions of any form coming out of that NGO type thing - where is the money coming from? Those with a vested interest in maintaining the status quo, of which Trump types are now going to be a permanent fixture.
Exactly. 100%. Where really is the money coming from?